They sure seem arrogant to me... First, they basically lie to the courts when they say 'we don't keep records of pedophiles', then they get caught by a statement that they made, Irwin recognized it, made them say that they do keep records, then the WT says "It will take us sooooooo long to find them, print them, whatever them" ..... THEN the WT refuses to turn over evidence, being fined $4,000 (?) a day..... Probably so that they would have time to redact any information that would be of value when they finally did cave in and turn the evidence over.
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On Petition For A Writ Of Certiorari To The Court Of Appeal Of The State Of California, Fourth Appellate District, Division Two
by lastmanstanding inhas anyone read and considered the watchtower’s final submission to the supreme court?.
gag.. also, have you read and considered the final submission by zalkin?.
it’s interesting for sure.. zalkin hammers it home.
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Jehovah's Witnesses's cover up of Child Abuse subject of NBC News Special in Sacramento California.
by Balaamsass2 inkudos to the members of this group whose tireless work got this in-depth news special into every living room within 60 miles of the california capitol.
every top cop, prosecutor, and lawmakers aid was exposed to the dark side of watchtower.
my phone has been ringing........ https://www.kcra.com/article/silent-no-more-part-1-the-survivors/28659357.
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A quote from the SF Gate news article freom above.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Year-long-investigation-finds-allegations-of-14299087.php
"Irwin Zalkin, a San Diego-based attorney who has also represented Catholic abuse victims, got a decade's worth of documents from the database files, but can't disclose details due to a California judge's protective order shielding the files from public view for now.
In an interview in an ornate, wood-carved courtroom at his alma mater, California Western School of Law, Zalkin called the documents he's seen "disturbing."
"There are a lot of children that are being affected. Very, very badly... It's hard to know what's in that and not be able to talk about it," Zalkin said.
Despite a court order requiring disclosure, lawyers for the Jehovah's Witnesses organization are still fighting, appealing to heavily redact the files.
Zalkin says that in his experience, the Jehovah's Witnesses has been more defiant than the Catholic Church when it comes to disclosure of files detailing years of alleged abuse and the hierarchy's response to it."JWs are now programmed to believe and say:
*We were told of these 'apostate lies'
*All organizations have pedophiles*Jehovah is cleaning his organization
When the 'disturbing' content of these blue envelopes are revealed, it may be another story. When they realize that the 'upper brass' knew about these terrible tragedies and let abusers abuse, we will really be able to see the depth of mind control then.
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The Watchtower Society want basic human rights but ''somehow'' deny disfellowshipped members theirs
by RULES & REGULATIONS injehovah’s witnesses imprisoned for their faith—by location.
locations where jehovah’s witnesses are put in prison, sometimes under harsh conditions, for practicing their faith and exercising basic human rights.. .
others are imprisoned for their conscientious objection to military service.. watchtower society: please don't lecture anyone on the denial of basic human rights when you take away the rights of disfellowshipped family members associating with their family and friends!.
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Agreed, the WT is the biggest hypocrite. It gets its members to believe two things at the same time every time.
Pulling back the curtain to expose them is the beginning.
Thx for the quotes and links!
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Can this be true: GB to court - NBC ??
by Festus inis this a bad joke or "fake news"?.
nbc new york is claiming "attorneys are expected on monday to announce the filing of lawsuits in king's county supreme court against eight members of the governing body of the jehovah's witnesses for alleged child sexual abuse claims.".
eventhough i would enjoy to see this happen i am very suspiciouse concerning nbcs reliability with this case.. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/happening-today-nj-water-cosby-appeal-epstein-probe-536740491.html.
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https://www.kcra.com/article/silent-no-more-part-1-the-survivors/28659357
Irwin Zalkin will be featured on one of these three news stories. There was one tonight in California at 5:30 PM on KCRA 3, and we believe there are two more. One on Tuesday and the other on Wednesday.
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Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters
by Lobsto ina month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.
two days ago, i received a response from them.
i think this is gonna be the first of many.
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I like the itty bitty teeny tiny quote from the 2011 WT... which says (basically) 'if you go by the business tablets from Babylon's very own time period (instead of the huge picture of a rock (from 200 years later, from a different country) with a crack thru it, featured, highlighted, debated and discussed in detail as if it were the messiah of all discoveries) then Babylons fall was in 587. Period.
All of the blabbering they do in those two articles (cleverly broken up into two different months so you can't remember the "we'll discuss this later" crap they always do to divert your attention) is only done to make themselves look like they have done soooo much research.
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Overlapping Generation
by pandorasbox1914 inthe september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.
his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .
no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.
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Right on, smiddy3!
I was just about to say the same thing (I did the same math you did when this 'generation' thing started) ......
Yep, smiddy3, since "Jesus set the example" "This generation will by no means pass away" What happened in HIS day? From 33 to 70 is how many "generation years"? 37, plain and simple. NOT 120 or more.
Sit down and shut up JWs.
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Jehovah’s Witness who posted criticisms on Reddit can remain anonymous, judge rules
by Tameria2001 inhttps://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/jehovah-s-witness-who-posted-criticisms-on-13855357.php.
i had this article pop up about the darksilver case.
it says a federal magistrate in san francisco has now ruled that darksilver can remain anonymous but then it says except for identification to lawyers for the religion’s watchtower publication.
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Jehovah’s Witness who posted criticisms on Reddit can remain anonymous, judge rules
by Tameria2001 inhttps://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/jehovah-s-witness-who-posted-criticisms-on-13855357.php.
i had this article pop up about the darksilver case.
it says a federal magistrate in san francisco has now ruled that darksilver can remain anonymous but then it says except for identification to lawyers for the religion’s watchtower publication.
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Desirous of Change / DOC..... Yes, it is true. My husband was an elder, and had to testify against the WT in a child abuse case. The WT waited until the case was dismissed in Summary Judgement and then DF'd my husband, my two sons, and the uncle of the child who was abused.
I asked my mother (who is still a Jdub) if she would still talk to us "after the case", as I knew from reading many other experiences that after you testify, after you 'tell the truth', and if you 'talk', you WILL BE DF'd. It came true, just as I predicted... they were disfellowshipped, like many others. The WT does not want you to talk.
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NEWS❗️: Watchtower lawyer Paul D. Polidoro admits IN WRITING that Watchtower has a "practice of shunning"
by Nathan R. Koppe innews❗️ watchtower lawyer paul d. polidoro admits in writing that watchtower has a "practice of shunning".
do jehovah’s witnesses shun former members of their religion?
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102008083.
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I am not disfellowshipped. As my DF'd husband (who stood up against the WT in a child sex abuse case and was DF'd for it) and I were helping my JW mom (and never JW dad) clean up their yard (for months) my JW sister told me "even tho you are not DF'd, we know you are apostate, and you will be shunned!" in a very loud voice.
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Everyone in a Cult, Doesn't Know They Are in a Cult
by The Bethelite inthat's the one thing they all have in common.
because as soon as you are aware that you are in one, you would of course leave it,.
so millions of people all over the world are in them and but of course are ignorant of this fact.. i was asked many times over the years in field service, the question.
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I think that sometimes people are unaware of what cult" means. I certainly didn't. I always pictured a small few, one or 200 people, if that. Not 8 million people! However, because of exposure (books written by all kinds of ex-cult members from many religions, institutions. TV shows, news media) and awareness, the term cult has "opened up" and people are better able to understand what it means... *controlled "beyond" *made to feel guilty. *devotion to leaders *Busy work. *repeat brainwashing .... all that...